, as he grows older, a healthy guy, still drives his ford f-150. i want to make sure the family makes those decisions, and that's ruined long the way in obamacare. so it's important for us to recognize what the legislation does and doesn't do, and i would tell you that, as we look towards unleashing those opportunities, one of the places we can unleash opportunities is making sure that we work on things that expand the footprint of providing health insurance, not through the federal government, through the private sector. >> greta: you another like healthcare available to people. just the way that obamacare is just not a good way to do it. is that what you're saying? >> i would certainly say that when you look at the impact of obama care, what we'll see here in south carolina is a young entrepreneur getting started, will see because of obamacare, his health insurance rates go up by 61% on average is what i understand. what we can also recognize is that we'll break that link between a patient a doctor. so what actually happens is something that may have had some good design as part of